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dont forget sigs ~~~~

+ means free spot to write things in, but doesnt mean they're the only places. its just there for others if they can't decide where to write. The standards should be very lax in what you can do and not do, but the syntax should be consistent at the core level to alleviate a large-scale problem on consistency. you can write other things in but dont change the syntax too much -undef

(This is the minimum baseline for articles. That's what I mean by the syntax thing btw)

Article formatting [unfinished]

(BOOTLEG INFOBOX. Anything that is optional will be marked as such, otherwise it is mandatory and cannot be removed, no exceptions. (unless its archive add date in which case, it has not been tracked extensively, only very recently. if you cant find the exact date ask others about it, otherwise dont include it.))

{{Infobox bootleg
|title = 
// optional. (you can remove the title it'll just use the article name instead -undef)
|collection_name = Windows
// collection name. (optional, use windows, linux, ms-dos, the rest -undef)
|screenshot = (PUT SCREENSHOT HERE)
// desktop screenshot (screenshot criteria NIY)
|screenshot_size = 250px // optional
|screenshot_alt = // optional
|caption = (CAPTION HERE)
// screenshot caption. (-undef) (If you can't think of anything to put, put The desktop of a fresh install of (BOOTLEG NAME))
|original_os = [[:Category:Bootlegs based on Windows (OS NAME HERE)|Windows (OS NAME HERE)]]
// original os. (use category links instead of seperate articles -yellows)
|forked_from = 
// use for bootleg fork, (optional -undef)
|release_date = 20
// (after release date add year number. you can put month/day if you want to. date format same as archiveadd) -undef
|creator = [[:Category:Bootlegs created by (CREATOR NAME HERE)|(CREATOR NAME HERE)]]
// bootleg creator(s). (if the bootleg creator/group has made more than 2 bootlegs, make it a link to their own category -undef)
|country = 
// countr(ies). (optional -undef)
|language = 
// system language(s). (include multiple languages if bootleg has different regional language or it has software in other languages -undef)
|arch = x8
// architecture(s). (arch format: x86 (16-bit) x86 (32-bit) x86 (64-bit) -undef)
|othervers = 
// other bootleg version(s). (optional -undef)
|size = 
// file size(s). (size format: X.X Y (#.# floating number, Y size unit (in capitals)) -undef)
|download = []
// download link(s). (use <wbr> when necessary -yellows)
|archiveadd = 
// archive addition date -undef (date format (oh boy): Month Day (ordinal), Year) (-undef)
}}

(Bootleg name) (also known as/otherwise known as+ (other name(s)) is a bootleg (describe bootleg here (e.g. (Original OS) edition, live (Original OS) CD, etc) created by (author name, reference from infobox)+ released in (year, reference from infobox)+ and added to the archive on (add date, reference from infobox)

Description

The bootleg is a modified (OS Name & Service Pack, reference from infobox) + ISO (describe the purpose of the bootleg and what is added and what is removed, along with other tidbits). It is (unattended (and/or) preactivated).

The ISO was made using (SOFTWARE) on (OS IF SPECIFIED) (if other software was used to aid in dist development e.g. autorun software/WPI include it here) (optional).

+ (If there is anything of note to be mentioned in the description, put it here otherwise put it in notes)

Changes from (Original OS)

(use * as prefix to make a listing. this is to be done with software and notes)

(document these places at minimum. they are are text-mode and graphical setup, boot screen, OOBE, login, desktop, software, skins and small tidbits)

=== Software === (if there is no software optional)

  • (Software listing goes here. The software list may or may not be sorted alphabetically and by software type. seperate software types with newlines, but if the type is: customization utilities, updates, redistributables, mark them with their own sections.)

(If the bootleg has a WPI, or "software packs", add a new sub-section "Software on the CD" and put them here. If it's software packs, add another sub-section under "Software on the CD" named "Software Pack 1", if there is more than one, then make more than one section, and then drop everything in there.)

=== Notes === (if theres nothing of note to put optional)

  • (particularly interesting things go here)

Gallery

<gallery> See How To Capture Screenshots For Your Bootlegs: A Guide Concerning Labels And Places To Capture </gallery>

Linux articles

Do we really count Linux as bootlegs? its crusty, sure but bootleg? that's debatable Yellows111 (talk) 12:55, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

Counter-point: Windows 12 Lite exists, so i'm not sure what to say about this topic. Huh. Yellows111 (talk) 16:03, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

Template


Screenshot Criteria Discussion

Version 1

  • If stock assets are used, do not bother capturing, if filler is needed, then this clause can be changed to "use the template image of File:X_Y_(Stock)"
  • A gallery must not use the same image as the infobox's screenshot parameter No longer affected with recent changes.
  • Never use the same image twice (EXCEPT the infobox image). Doing such will break galleries. Nobody wants that.
  • by Yellows111 (talk) 13:31, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

Template Standards

  • If you use an image for the love of all crust in the sky PLEASE make your file references have a empty link parameter. ([[File:whatever.png|link=]])
  • Not doing the above makes the template image able to be clicked on and thus previewed by MediaViewer. This makes for a bad user experience where the first image can be a random icon.

Yellows111 (talk) 13:38, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

How To Capture Screenshots For Your Bootlegs: A Guide Concerning Labels And Places To Capture [unfinished]

All screenshots must be captured in PNG format, taken from a VM screen (doesn't matter how you get a VM running) and if the screenshot is taken from a hypervisor, be cropped to just the VM screen (for obvious reasons).

You can use any screenshot program for screen capture, preferably the hypervisor's screenshot function if it has it, and any hypervisor or site for testing the bootleg. Although you can just use the Install Any OS VMs, using a virtual machine is highly recommended, as you don't have to deal with distractions and disruptions from any potential troublemakers, and you get a higher quality picture as it's not compressed by CollabVM itself.

As for labeling your screenshots, and good places to look for capturing, this is how to label your screenshots:

(Original OS Name)_(Bootleg OS Name)_(Portion).png

Example: XP_MagartRedivo2010_DjKhaled_Theme.png
Vista_GanjaEdition_Desktop.png

And as for places to look, you shouldn't have too much of an issue finding places to look, but if you can't for the life of you find any good places, or is just unsure on where to start, here are a few good places to look:

This is assuming you are writing for an XP bootleg.

You must order the screenshots in the gallery in the way that the portions down below are ordered. You can only take one of each screenshot, and if there are multiple sections of one portion, it doesn't exclude it from capture.

Pre-boot selector / Boot selector (If it exists)
Text-mode setup (Partition screen, Format screen, Copying screen)
Graphical setup
Boot screen
Pre-OOBE (In most bootlegs with stripped OOBEs, this part will almost always be here)
OOBE (If it exists)
Post-OOBE (Login screen)
Post-Login (Anything that is set to run on startup, such as a WPI, post-install script, or other such)
Desktop (If any reboots are required (which is the case most of the time in bootlegs with WPIs), then that makes it a Desktop on First Boot portion, otherwise it's just a Desktop portion)
Start Menu (The start menu of the default theme)
Demo (A Demo portion involves two or three windows, but these two are paramount: System Properties (you can access the dialog in the Control Panel or typing <code>sysdm.cpl</code> in the Run dialog. You may put the support information if you wish), About Windows (you can access the dialog by running winver.exe in the Run prompt or going to My Computer, clicking Help and then About). You can also include the Run dialog itself)
Autorun (If the bootleg has a custom one)

Don't forget to specify the default theme's name when you're captioning the start menu image by the way.

What is also important to capture are the themes of a bootleg, as there are many bootlegs with many themes (and we do mean many, there are known bootlegs with more than 100 themes), so this is how to deal with it:

You must take a screenshot of the theme by applying the theme in the theme selector, then close the theme selector dialog, then you open the start menu and then capture the screenshot.

As for labeling it, you do it like this: (prepend your OS name from your previous screenshots)_(Theme Name)_Theme.png

Screenshot examples:

Program screenshots

You can use a program like AeroShot (or AeroShotCRE) to capture programs in a more professional way by only including the window.

Screenshot examples:

On Windows, you can also hold ALT + Print Screen to capture the window. I don't know when this was added but I know it works on XP, 7, and 10. Dartz (talk) 20:46, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

How to deal with multiple bootlegs with the same name

If you are trying to write an article on a bootleg and a bootleg with the same name (but not same author) as the one you are trying to review exists, you have to move the original page and rename it accordingly, preferrably by appending the author's name, and then you can make an article.

Alternatively, how to deal with multiple versions of bootlegs

Simply just make different articles and then put all of the other versions in the othervers variable in the Infobox bootleg template of the main article.

--Undefishin (talk) 09:00, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Noting things

what should I note in articles? to what extent should I note things? how much effort should i ideally put into this? and would that be acceptable for baseline? idk man --Undefishin (talk) 05:56, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

E.g. should I note things like, say if a bootleg has cokes and keyfunnies should I note the scene name and music? Should I bother looking in thumbs.db for unused wallpapers?

--Undefishin (talk) 05:56, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

Discussion section unrelated to the wiki standards

PUT YOUR SECTIONS IN HERE DUMBASSES

add windows ce/embedded category to the main page